Stupid Question for the DNC
I would like to ask a question... why won't the DNC let Michigan and Florida re-vote?
It is reminiscent of HRC's negative scoring of Legislators who did not vote yes for the sexual orientation only ENDA bill. They did not play by the big boys rules. Now they are being penalized.
In other words, HRC is cutting off it's nose to spite it's face. Ok, we hear how powerful you are.
The DNC is doing the same thing. Michigan and Florida... naughty, naughty, they bucked the system, thumbed their noses at the powers that be.
Rogue states.
Michigan and Florida deserve to be heard. Especially Florida. have they not been dissed enough in elections?
And with those "two states added in, Obama's total vote lead shrinks from 700,000 to about 70,000."
Yes, I am personally motivated because my candidate will benefit greatly from a re-vote. These are KEY states in a November election. I think as a party, we need to know who can win them. what the demographics are. how this plays in a national election.
As a Democrat, I would pony up some money to help pay for a re-vote in those two states.
Why isn't it happening?
I know... stupid question but... still... I want to know why?
It is reminiscent of HRC's negative scoring of Legislators who did not vote yes for the sexual orientation only ENDA bill. They did not play by the big boys rules. Now they are being penalized.
In other words, HRC is cutting off it's nose to spite it's face. Ok, we hear how powerful you are.
The DNC is doing the same thing. Michigan and Florida... naughty, naughty, they bucked the system, thumbed their noses at the powers that be.
Rogue states.
Michigan and Florida deserve to be heard. Especially Florida. have they not been dissed enough in elections?
And with those "two states added in, Obama's total vote lead shrinks from 700,000 to about 70,000."
Yes, I am personally motivated because my candidate will benefit greatly from a re-vote. These are KEY states in a November election. I think as a party, we need to know who can win them. what the demographics are. how this plays in a national election.
As a Democrat, I would pony up some money to help pay for a re-vote in those two states.
Why isn't it happening?
I know... stupid question but... still... I want to know why?
Labels: 2008 Presidential campaign, DNC, Florida, Michigan
posted by Sara at 12:51 PM
9 Comments:
Every time I see Howard Dean during an interview, I just say to myself that the DNC's leadership has already decided that they want Obama. But that's just my perception.
I see your point. And I also see the need to follow rules. How about a simple compromise - allow, as you said, a revote. The primary primary in those two states was just practice, not official. Okay, fine. Now comes the real primary, on the major party schedule (or late, if it's past due already). But a new election, new votes cast.
And then, maybe Obama's lead grows - and maybe not. Maybe it disappears. But everyone's been heard.
I'm kinda guessing that if HE started calling for a re-vote in those states, so that everyone's vote would be counted, maybe some folks would switch, or vote where they didn't vote before.
In any case, I'd like to see the Democratic Party embrace the principle that we count every vote, even if it doesn't go our way. Unlike the ole G(reed)O(il)P(ander) party.
It's Howard Dean who seems to be enjoying all the in fighting.
All he has to do is get both hillary and Obama alone, and say "listen, for the good of the party, sign off on a re-vote." After all, it is him who has the final say.
But, he won't, because he's a douche bag, and a waste of a DNC leader.
We were in Florida for the first two weeks of March.
There was a lot of talk on the news about the re-vote and what it would take...
And it all comes down to money. Its a HUGE expense. It would take MILLIONS of dollars to do it and they couldnt decide who should pay for it.
Im very confused about what goes on with voting and politics. If we are all one country - why arent we all doing the same thing? Why do some states have their own rules?
And Texas totally baffles me. They get to vote twice. WTF?
And they wonder why most of america gets so sick of the crap, shuts it off, ignores it all and doesn't vote.
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I think speak for every Democrat when I say: It's time to redo the entire nomination process!
I was talking to my dad about this just last night.
Now, maybe we're misunderstanding exactly how it happened, but as far as we know, it went something like:
1) The DNC said "You can't have your primaries before X date or else you don't get delegates."
2) Florida and Michigan said "Oh yeah? Well, we're gonna have our primaries early, so there!"
3) The DNC said, "OK, then you don't get your delegates."
4) FL and MI are now saying "WE WANT OUR DELEGATES!"
Those two states knew the rules, voted in favor of the rules, and then were surprised that the DNC did what they said they would do if the rules were broken?
I guess I don't see why Florida and Michigan (and many other folks) are so eager to blame the DNC for a situation that they caused by moving their primaries early.
And I wonder, would this even be an issue if the Democratic nomination were already clinched?
Molly? I completely agree HOWEVER, the people of those states?
the ones who have been motivated for the first time in decades to come out in historic numbers?
THEY are the ones getting screwed.
Molly, although it's hard to remember in the blur of news coverage, almost exactly a year ago, there were a lot of stories about the many states who wanted to move up their primaries. States have been extremely unhappy with the primary schedule for a long, long time.
The DNC knew this, and chose to ignore the unrest within the state parties.
No one could have predicted that this contest would be so close. Looking back with that in mind, I don't see how we can blame Michigan or Florida for trying to make a point to the DNC and going against the rules. The rules were stupid, and they were trying to make a point for all the other states who never play a role in the primaries because of antiquated tradition that Iowa and New Hampshire must always be first.
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